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ch hu Posted - 31/07/2005 : 21:02:45
Would someone kindly enlighten queries from from several senior medical students the status of recognition of MRCS-- membership of royal colleges of surgeons of UK. We know FRCS is recognised. They said MRCP diploma-membership of royal colleges of Physicians of UK is not a specialist diploma--but only an entrance qualification for further training to become specialists in UK, until they get CCST --certificate of completion of specialist training. Only then, they are specialists. (Of course FRCP diploma- Fellowship of the royal colleges of physicians of UK, which are awarded after many years of distinguised service as physicians should be recognised, as compared to FRCS.) If MRCP is recognised in Malaysia, then by extension MRCS ????should be also recognised too. Curious
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leslie_tjong Posted - 25/06/2009 : 21:31:12
[quote]Originally posted by haiyent

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UK membership/fellowship exam - 25-35% passing rate, Some never passed it at all finishing all attempts.

Masters' >85% passing rate at first attempt, second attempt near 100%


hi,will UK membership/fellowship exam will be possible to be pass from doctors graduated from outside sister colleges (British Colonies).
Can u give me the latest information about passing rate of UK exam and local exam?
yeepei Posted - 24/07/2007 : 15:23:54
tomyldm, finding jobs in the UK is tough... and if you're a non-EU citizen, it is even tougher.

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Am I making sense? No? Er.. Ah... Hmm...
tomyldm Posted - 24/07/2007 : 12:04:26
I am currently a medical student in my last year medical study. i was advice by a senior to go for plab n work in uk instead of working im malaysia. my q
1)can some one tell me details of going to uk to work (plab, mrcp??)
2)if i wan to go US to work n go into my speciality will i have to chance to come back to malaysia next time being recognize?
if there is any naive q being posted here pls forgive n correct my thanks
ngchmd Posted - 21/03/2006 : 07:07:14
Maintenance of certification - what does it mean?


http://medicine.ucsd.edu/bonepit/Lectures/MOCforGrandRounds.ppt#1

Lifetime certification is no longer the benchmark of quality.

Continuous certification will be the benchmark of the future.


http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/hcqs/ems/RECERT.ppt

The Texas EMS Recertification Process

ngchmd
ch hu Posted - 18/03/2006 : 17:25:07
Just saw that MMed Singapore is one of the recognised minimum post graduate qualification for dermatology. Is it recognised for other specialties? Anyone have the lastest?
ch hu Posted - 24/02/2006 : 08:11:30
There are two ways of becoming 'specialists' in our country. One through gazettement, the other through credentialling. MRCP, MRCPCH, MRCOG etc holders need to go through one and half years of supervision and monitoring for gazettement. However those who opt to join private practice straight after membership, or those who obtain mebership after joining private practice, they can only go for credentialling. Those joining the universities as lecturers after being back from overseas need to be credentialled too. This is how I understand it. Am I right? However, I do not know the exact process and details of credentialling. Can someone enlighten me?
soloflier Posted - 17/02/2006 : 19:29:49
Sure, it's legal. But if you get sued by a patient, your actions will be hard to defend in a court of law. Were you properly trained for this type of work? What about your beautician associates? Are you prepared to "cover" for them should they slip up?

Cheers!
spinosum Posted - 17/02/2006 : 16:18:56
quote:
Originally posted by soloflier

An MBBS/MD doing aesthetic work is asking for trouble. It is worse if they team up with beauticians. Your MDU insurance will not cover this action.

Cheers!


But if you read this:
http://www.aaamed.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Membership.main

Seems like it is "legal" for doctors to obtain such knowledge and practice aesthetic medicine. Anyone else with other opinion? :)


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soloflier Posted - 17/02/2006 : 15:55:56
An MBBS/MD doing aesthetic work is asking for trouble. It is worse if they team up with beauticians. Your MDU insurance will not cover this action.

Cheers!
spinosum Posted - 17/02/2006 : 13:34:06
Many of a time, I see doctors with postgrad qualifications which are not recognised by the MMC, for eg. Master of Dermatology from Cardiff, or even holders of MRCGP/FRACGP, but are practicing as dermatologists or specialist GP in Malaysia. Question is, are they allowed to do that? What's the "consequences" for such doctors practicing as specialists in the private sector? Can they charge the public at a higher/specialist consultation charges? What will the MMC do if such doctors are "revealed" to them?

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spinosum Posted - 17/02/2006 : 13:10:55
quote:
Originally posted by antatosh

Ch hu.. I dont think beauticians/aestheticians are allowed to give botox injections.. it is still a medical procedure, I think.. no personal experience so hard to say.. :)


But MBBS/MD holders practicing aesthetic medicine in private, are giving botox injections -- coz they are qualified doctors anyway! Nowadays many aesthetic centres hire doctors to be part of their team, so that they can do more procedures which are not allowed to be done by usual beauticians/aestheticians.

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palmdoc Posted - 05/02/2006 : 11:44:01
quote:
Originally posted by ch hu

A fresh graduate mentioned she heard the rumour that MRCP - adult internal medicine, (not paediatrics) would soon be recognised as in UK. It means that it will be only a diploma enabling one to be selected for further training to become specialists, either through Masters routes or otherwise. That means that MRCP would not be a specialist diploma per se. One needs something like CCT, CCST, or Masters or FAMS etc to be registered as specialists with Academy of Medicine. Anyone have a better picture?



Your question has been highlighted in the MMR post here:
http://medicine.com.my/wp/?p=626
It would be better to start of new threads in the forum if you are diverging from the main topic otherwise your questions on different issues will get buried in a long long discussion thread as is going on here.
ch hu Posted - 05/02/2006 : 08:58:05
The current discussion about the training of medical students in terms of clinical skills etc generate interest in the various degree programs offered in and out of Malaysia. One patient commented that to spend one million ringgit each on our children to get a MD from US, MBBS from Australia,UK and Ireland is really worth the training- a lifelong skill acquisition, instead of going to the other less known new private institutions. This is especially so if sone need to consider further specialist training. Any opinions?
ch hu Posted - 04/02/2006 : 08:14:04
A fresh graduate mentioned she heard the rumour that MRCP - adult internal medicine, (not paediatrics) would soon be recognised as in UK. It means that it will be only a diploma enabling one to be selected for further training to become specialists, either through Masters routes or otherwise. That means that MRCP would not be a specialist diploma per se. One needs something like CCT, CCST, or Masters or FAMS etc to be registered as specialists with Academy of Medicine. Anyone have a better picture?
ch hu Posted - 20/01/2006 : 11:29:45
What are the recognised qualifications for dermatology? It seem that almost there are different courses available for us. Who are te real dermatologists?

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